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FROM: NSRCM --CPUA TO: NSPBT -- CPUA 07/10/85 17:03:05

To: NSJMP --CPUA

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NOTE FROM: ROBERT MCFARLANE

SUBJECT: Early program on Terrorism

At my meeting with Don Regan this morning dealing with themes for

the next two months, we discussed how to exploit the current public

mood of supporting improvements in counter-terroristcapability. I

had dissuaded everyone from having the President out front with his

intentions on how to retaliate but I agreed that it would be useful

to have a proposal to send to the Hill asking for what we believe

sueful both in the way of additional legal authorities as well as

more money for HUMINT or other intelligence and defensive items

such as embassy improvement etc. I committed to have a proposal

within a week. Could you please task the appropriate IG to put

this together for our review by about Tuesday of next week? Many

thanks.

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MSG FROM: NSRCM --CPUA TO: NSOLN --CPUA 09/05/85 20:36:44

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NOTE FROM: ROBERT MCFARLANE

SUBJECT: AP reporters inquiries

You have seen Karna's separate note on the AP inquiry in re

Durenberger and Leahy's press release. I have told her to no

comment it. The note refers to Parry's presumption that you dealt

with Singlaub--you can judge better than I--for the purpose of

cutting off any future inquiries on his part but also of saying

that he may see references to the notion of your having been a go

between for him and that you hope he can dismiss that notion.

AP reporters inquiries

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To: NSOLN --CPUA

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NOTE FROM: ROBERT MCFARLANE

SUBJECT: Earlier note on AP request

Do not answer my earlier request on this issue via PROFS.

Earlier note on AP request

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NOTE FROM: OLIVER NORTH

Subject: Centam Events

Pls type this up smooth and add to the congressional events

calendar you already prepared so that we have a consolidated list

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To: NSRBM --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER NSWRP --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER

NOTE FROM: Walter Raymond

SUBJECT: Centam Events

At the Sat meeting a number of events were scheduled for this

week. There will be an effort to have one or more events throughout

the next three weeks. We will be putting all the events on a print

out schedule so that you can see the package in perspective.

Jonathon Miller and Mike Castine are both helping on this. Here is

a rundown of some of the highlights:

3 March: UNO, Outreach group with RR; Shultz to VFW

4 March: Repub whip org to WH. Lott and co to meet press after.

5 March: Godfrey Sperling breakfast (weave in Centam themes);

meetingwith chairman of four concerned Hse Committees (and minority

chairs) and RR to discuss problem and call for bipartisan approach

to challenge to our security

6 March: Submission of Terrorism TF report to RR. Find way to

tie in Nics. (NB: We had thought we might use weapons display. I

now understand weapons display will stand alone next week.)

7 March: Catholic leaders to see RR: this is fuzzy and needs

work.

10-14 March: Commence 45 minute per day blocks of RR time to

meet with groups of 3-4 congressmen in Oval; regional press

luncheons (South, West); 5 minute news shoots (4) on Christian

radio; interview on Radio Marti; two 450 meetings with grassroots

groups; photo op with Nic Human Rights victims (like the Afghan

kids); Saturday radio speeches (8 and 15 March);

This is not definitive and only includes WH-related affairs.

We will have a claendar which is adjusted regularly. Beyond this is

public diplomacy and network activity including with religious,

constituency groups, ads, op eds, and etc.

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NSJSM --CPUA NSRBM --CPUA DONALD FORTIER

NSWRF --CPUA DONALD FORTIER

Centam Events

FROM: NSWRP --CPUA TO: NSJMP --CPUA 03/19/86 13:49:26

To: NSDRF --CPUA DONALD FORTIER

NOTE FROM: BOB PEARSON

Subject: BLUMENTHAL POST STORY ON NED, PRODEMCA

From Tillman.

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To: NSRBM --CPUA DONALD FORTIER NSWRP --CPUA DONALD FORTIER

NOTE FROM: Jackie Tillman

SUBJECT: BLUMENTHAL POST STORY ON NED, PRODEMCA

I checked with NED this morning about the Post story and they

report the following: They learned in very early March that

PRODEMCA was going to place full paged ads in favor of aid to the

contras. They checked with the La Prensa Chomorro and he said that

it would make life very uncomfortable for La Prensa. The Board of

NED at a 3/7 meeting then approved a switch of the grantee from

PRODEMCA to AMERICARES but the grant agreement with AMERICARES is

not signed yet. PRODEMCA has two contracts with NED, the La Prensa

one is the first one (for $100,000). The second one is a $200,000

grant with two programs: $50,000 to the independent human rights

organization in Nicaragua and a $150,000 was to go to start a

Center for Democratic Studies in Managua. NED was working with

some Coordinadora folks on this project. The status is that

theSandinistas were making it so uncomfortable for them, that they

had just decided to start the Center in Costa Rica instead. Also,

NED told me that while Penn Kemble had been talking to Blumental on

this story, he did NOT bother to inform NED about it so they

learned about it very late. They are currently preparing some

press guidance and will messenger it over to me this morning. I

will get it to you as soon as I get it. Also, Penn has assured

NED--when they finally talked--that not a dime of Endowment money

was used for lobbying and can document that. That is currently

being checked as well.

Last, the NED and PRODEMCA connection is a matter of public record.

I'll bring over NED's last annual report to your office.

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NSJMP --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER

MSG FROM: NSOLN --CPUA TO: NSKS --CPUA 04/22/86 12:51:01

To: NSKS --CPUA

*** Reply to note of 04/22/86 12:34

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NOTE FROM: OLIVER NORTH

Subject: Press questions on you

Quite frankly I feel like Bud did when there was so much

speculation about his personal life. There is no foundation of

truth in any of the allegations being made and I am tired of being

smeared by irresponsible members of the press. Please see the

Admiral re guidance and show him this note.

Press questions on you

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To: NSFH --CPUA

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NOTE FROM: OLIVER NORTH

Subject: Press questions on you

Please print this smooth for me to carry to a mtg w/ RCM that I am

trying to set up.

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To: NSOLN --CPUA

NOTE FROM: KARNA SMALL

SUBJECT: Press questions on you

Good old Alfonso Chardy of the Miami Herald is back harrassing me

again (geez, I wish he'd get of your case - but he probably won't

as long as contra aid is alive)...he says he is doing a story on

allegations in the press and also by Congressional aides about the

contras and you. His questions:

(1) Has Ollie had contacts, between 1983 and now, with a gentleman

by the name of Robowen? If yes, was the contact with him

regarding the contras?

(2) Allegations in the press link to Robowen, involving him (Ollie)

in illegal dealings (I believe the drug deals that have been

written about)

(3) Has Ollie retained any lawyers in the last few weeks or days

regarding these allegations?

Help - guidance please. Thanks.

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MSG FROM: NSOLN --CPUA TO: NSCPC --CPUA 05/07/86 11:10:45

To: NSCPC

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NOTE FROM: OLIVER NORTH

Subject: libya

yet more of this stuff. pd in the assault. aarruggah. bob.

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NOTE FROM: Judyt Mandel

Subject: libya

We had a lengthy session, including reps from Oakley's office,

NEA/ARN, DOD plus Fischman and Phil Arnold, who will be leading the

short term Libyan effort. USIA will revise their strategy paper to

include our fixes, send it over for Poindexter blessing today.

More important, they have an action plan which they appear to be

pushing very actively, the beginning's of a speakers' list, and are

developing a calendar of events (I am sending you copies.)

They want contributions to the calendar and speakers' list (I put

you and Craig down for the speakers' list. As soon as the strategy

paperis approved here, they will send a boiled down version to all

dip posts, alerting them to what we plan to do, asking for

comments, suggestions. I/GTsaid CIA is working on an update of

their January paper on Libyan aggression, and alerted us to the

upcoming battle for declassification of the info. The Group is

also going to put together a speakers' packet on Libya, for use by

USG spokesmen, and possibly by friendlies outside USG.

One of the main points is lack of people resources. USIA is

considering taking on Terry Arnold (recommended by both Oakley's

office and NEA) as a consultant, to do some writing and turn

bureaucratese into English. That may help move some of the

projects forward.

Phil Arnold and Fischman will be working full time on Libya PD, and

will keep the momentum going until Davil Miller comes aboard. Phil

said he does not think, at this point, that he needs detailees, nor

does he want to move over to State, but he will get back to us on

this by Fri.

In addition to looking over the things USIA plans, we will need to

push other agencies to contribute to this effort. A Poindexter to

other agencies, citing the need for cooperation in this pd effort

will be the first order of business, once we get USIA's paper.

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libya

FROM: NSKS --CPUA TO: NSCPC --CPUA 05/22/86 18:44:34

To: NSOLN --CPUA NSRLE --CPUA

NSCPC --CPUA NSRFB --CPUA

NOTE FROM: KARNA SMALL

SUBJECT: Contra item on ABC

ABC just did a scathing report on contras - drugs, skimming of

money,atrocities, with quotes from Phil Mabry, Kerry, Barnes,

etc...please have WHCA call it up for you as a replay when you have

a chance -- it ran about 10 min. into the ABC evening news - (one

guy was even quoted about having seen a 12 year old girl raped to

death by 20 contras because her father collaborated with

Sandinistas)....it's all about how four Congressional committees

are investigating these variouscharges - pretty tough stuff, which

we may have to answer tomorrow.

FROM: NSRLE --CPUA TO: NSOLN --CPUA 06/20/86 17:57:39

To: NSOLN --CPUA

NOTE FROM: Robert L. Earl

SUBJECT: MORE NORTH-CONTRA ALLEGATIONS

Karna advises that CBS (the W. 57th St show in a week or two) seeks

NSC comment on their information that John Hall was receiving

monthly checks from the NSC. She seeks guidance on Monday (23

June).

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FROM: NSJMP --CPUA TO: NSPWR --CPUA 06/26/86 15:47:36

To: NSPWR --CPUA PETER RODMAN

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NOTE FROM: JOHN POINDEXTER

SUBJECT: Al Haig

He called me yesterday to tell me to ignore the Cannon article and

to also ask me to consider talking to the UTL Seminar to be held in

Munich on 3 October. It is a seminar that United Technologies

sponsors in Europe each year to which they invite prominent

businessmen from Europe. He says it is a very good forum. I told

him that was too far ahead to commit but I would think about it.

What do you think?

cc: NSRBM --CPUA ROD MCDANIEL NSJFM --CPUA JACK MATLOCK

NSKS --CPUA KARNA SMALL NSREL --CPUA BOB LINHARD

NSPBT --CPUA PAUL THOMPSON NSFEG --CPUA FLORENCE GANTT

NSKWZ --CPUA KAY ZERWICK

FROM: NSKS --CPUA TO: NSJMP --CPUA 06/26/86 17:10:39

To: NSJMP --CPUA

*** Reply to note of 06/26/86 15:47

NOTE FROM: KARNA SMALL

Subject: Al Haig

On the UTL Seminar, of course it is awfully early to predict the

President's or your schedule...there are always a number of

Seminars around the world that would truly welcome your presence.

You might wish to wait to see what other invitations for the Fall

come in. My recollection was that Bud did speak to many groups -

but usually those that were sponsored by academic groups,

associations, foundations, etc. and not by an individual business.

But of course if their audience would provide a truly unusual and

high level opportunity for you, you might want to consider it.

As for the Cannon piece, I just wanted you to know that I have had

NUMEROUS calls from other press people all of whom thought it was

a cheap shot by people who could not get access. (When Hoffman

called here, I had offered to set him up with interviews with any

number of NSC staff who could speak to your leadership style etc.

- and HE TURNED THAT DOWN...so obviously, they had no intention of

writing a balanced piece - they just wanted to push the idea of an

interview with you. Interestingly enough - others are writing

profiles as well - I have sent two to Florence to show you. One by

McCartney is somewhat critical of one angle - your bringing alot of

Navy types in, to the exclusion of civilians. But the other, by

George DeLama (whom you are seeing at dinner tonight) was VERY

balanced, and quite complimentary of you. I had had lunch with

George and discussed that article and he was quite fair.

On Haig - next time you talk to him, you might josh him a bit about

the AP story today out of Chattanooga saying he plans to seek the

Republican Presidential nomination in 1988 quoting him as saying

"I'm a dark, dark horse."

Cheers.

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FROM: NSJMP --CPUA TO: NSKS --CPUA 06/26/86 17:17:53

To: NSKS --CPUA

*** Reply to note of 06/26/86 17:10

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NOTE FROM: JOHN POINDEXTER

Subject: Al Haig

Thanks for the input. I have also had calls from Weinberger,

Shultz, Casey, Bob Sims, Bill Clark, Paul Laxalt and Jim Baker

about the Cannon article. Also Dave Beckwith and Chris Wallace have

told me to ignore it.

FROM: NSRLE --CPUA TO: NSCPC --CPUA 06/27/86 11:48:55

To: NSCPC --CPUA

NOTE FROM: Robert L. Earl

Subject: Question from CBS

FYI, keep you in the loop & all that.... (Fun loop, isn't it? It

fits nicely around the neck).

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To: NSOLN --CPUA

NOTE FROM: KARNA SMALL

SUBJECT: Question from CBS

Last Friday I told Bob Earl that theCBS show "West 57th St." was

doing a special feature on contras etc....it will probably be a

blast, from what I can gather. They specifically called to ask for

an "NSC comment on the fact that somebody named Robert Hull has

been boasting to friends that for a while he was receiving weekly

checks from the NSC." They asked to interview you and I declined...

however, I said I would have to get back to them on the Hull

matter. I asked Bob about it last week -- this week he said it was

bullshit..that NSC doesn't have a checking account. While that may

all be true -- the show obviously has an interview with this guy

and I can't just give them the "bullshit" response...

Bob said he would get with you to get me some facts on just who

this guy is and why he's implicating us. I know you all have been

really tied up with the contra aid vote etc. but I don't like to

let an entire week go by without responding to a network question.

This note is just a reminder that perhaps you two could discuss and

get back to me. Many thanks.

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FROM: NSPBT --CPUA TO: NSCPC --CPUA 08/11/86 17:35:32

To: NSRFB --CPUA

NOTE FROM: PAUL THOMPSON

SUBJECT: info of press conf.

jmp came back from preparing the president with two questions:

check the number of times we have met with the nicaraguans, going

back to the shultz meetings.

check the accuracy of reports that there was ever any contra drug

involvement.

please provide the above soonest. press conf is tomorrow evening.

perry

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FROM: NSRLE --CPUA TO: NSCPC --CPUA 08/11/86 18:23:20

To: NSCPC --CPUA

NOTE FR0M: Robert L. Earl

Subject: info of press conf.

I'd have used "UNO" where Ray used "contra organizations," but the

thrust of his response is fine. It's short (and therefore

"Presidential"). Interesting that Ray puts the paperwork burden on

Paul et al....

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*** Reply to note of 08/11/86 17:35

NOTE FROM: Raymond Burghardt

Subject: info of press conf.

The President can respond as follows on those two issues:

--US/Nicaraguan Meetings: Secretary Shultz visited Managua in June

1984 to meet with Daniel Ortega. We then held nine rounds of

meetings with the Nicaraguan government. We continue to maintain

diplomatic relations; our ambassador has regular contact with their

top officials.

--Allegations of Contra Drug Trafficking: All of those allegations

have been carefully examined by our intelligence and law

enforcement authorities. We have not turned up any evidence that

the contra organizations were involved in narcotics trafficking.

(FYI: Out of the 20,000 freedom fighters, there are a handful of

individuals, mainly in fringe groups which we do not support, who

have some record of ties to narcotics traffickers. In cases where

we have presented such evidence to the groups' leadership, they

have expelled the individuals.

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FROM: NSSIT --CPUA TO: NSREL --CPUA 08/19/86 23:18:40

To: NSREL --CPUA NSKED --CPUA

NSWRP --CPUA BOHN --VAXB

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NOTE FROM: SITUATION ROOM WATCH OFFICER

SUBJECT: MEMORANDUM TO VADM POINDEXTER FROM BOB LINHART

I received a call from Tom Simons (State's Bureau of European and

Canadian Affairs) who said the Wall Street Journal obtained access

to the President's letter to Gorbachev.

The NSDD containing the letter was distributed to Agency principals

only yesterday.

According to Simons, the Wall Street Journal will delay publication

of the letter until representatives of the newspaper talk with you

tomorrow.

I have notified NSC Secretariat and plan to have deGraffenreid

engage the FBI tomorrow.

THANK YOU,

FROM: NSREL --CPUA TO: NSJMP --CPUA 08/20/86 16:01:03

To: NSJMP --CPUA

*** Reply to note of 08/20/86 13:09

NOTE FROM: ROBERT E. LINHARD

Subject: MEMORANDUM TO VADM POINDEXTER FROM BOB LINHART

THE PACKAGE THAT WAS RELEASED INCLUDED 2 NSDDs. NSDD 232

(INSTRUCTIONS FOR PREPARATION FOR NEXT ROUND -- WHICH WAS BASED ON

THE LETTER) AND NSDD 233 (CONSULTATIONS ON A RESPONSE TO GENSEC

GORBACHEV -- WHICH HAD THE EARLIER DRAFT TEXT OF THE LETTER). NSDD

233 WAS DISTRIBUTED UNDER THE EXPLICIT GUIDANCE THAT IT WAS TO BE

RESTRICTED TO "AGENCY PRINCIPALS ONLY" -- YET AT LEAST AT STATE IT

WAS WIDELY DISTRIBUTED. THIS MAY HAVE CAUSED THE LEAK.

ADDITIONAL DATA: THE REPORTER WHO GOT THE INFORMATION IS JOHN

WOLCOTT. HE HAD LUNCH YESTERDAY AFTERNOON WITH NORM CLYNE OF

NITZE'S SHOP. NORM CALLED ME TO TELL ME ABOUT THIS LUNCH AND TO

ENSURE THAT I KNEW "THAT HE WAS NOT THE SOURCE OF THE LEAK."

HOW DID YOUR CONVERSATION WITH THE WALL ST JOURNAL GO? DID THEIR

SENIOR EDITOR CALL? SHOULD WE ANTICIPATE THE STORY TOMORROW?

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FROM: NSJMP --CPUA TO: NSREL --CPUA 08/20/86 16:23:51

To: NSREL --CPUA

*** Reply to note of 08/20/86 16:01

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NOTE FROM: JOHN POINDEXTER

Subject: MEMORANDUM TO VADM POINDEXTER FROM BOB LINHART

I haven't talked to anybody from WSJ management yet. I will

probably talk to one of them this afternoon. I did have an

interview with Jane Mayer, their WH correspondent. She indicated

they had a lot of detail. I refused to be drawn into a confirmation

or denial of the details that she asked about. I talked about

process and referred to previous Presidential positions on

elimination of nuclear weapons, sharing of SDI, and the importance

of SDI. I couldn't tell from her questions whether they actually

have a copy of letter or just a lot of detail. She asked whether

the idea about elimination of ballistic missiles came from

President or somebody else. I just referred to previous positions

of the President about having long range objective of the

elimination of nuclear weapons. I doubt that I will be able to turn

them off, but maybe get them not to specifically reference the

letter if they actually have it.

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To: NSRCM --CPUA

*** Reply to note of 09/02/86 21:46

NOTE FROM: OLIVER NORTH

Subject: Anything going on??

We still have no response fm JMP re proceeding w/ the sequential

release proposal outlined to you some time back. Have now

undertaken to have Casey raise same w/ JMP tomorrow at thr weekly

mtg. The things one must do to get action. Am hopeful Bill can push

hard enough to move on the matter. Nir will be here next week and

will raise enough hell to move it if it hasn't all fallen apart by

then. The basic problem, as you know, is that we dither so long on

these things that by the time we re ready to go to bat, the rules

have changed again. I agree w/ yr assessment that the next mtg in

Tango is unlikely to be for some time. My hope is that we will not

be trying to adjust yr sched for next June for this next mtg. NEW

SUBJECT: It is obvious to me that the effort down south is going to

require an intensive effort that goes beyond the CIA's ability to

support (e.g. U.S. travel, speeches, pubs, etc. by UNO) and that a

mechanism needs to be estab by which these activities can be

carried out fully aboveboard. How abt a 501c(3) Nicaraguan

Democracy Institute, HQ in D.C., headed by someone like Jack Gavin

w/ Judge Clark, RCM, Paul Gorman, et al on the board of directors.

Said NDI raises $, pays for P/R, UNO activities in U.S., does med

treatment for wounded Contras in U.S., etc. which CIA cannot do.

These activities are now all done by Project Democracy - which is

currently supposed to be out of the CentAm business on or about 1

Oct. Somebody has to do this stuff and it strikes me that Hill &

Knowlton is abt to acquire the services of a bright gal who cd

handle international and domestic P/R for the movement pretty well.

I think we cd get some good Republicans (Bill Walsh, et al) to

help out and have the NDI publish regular financial statements

(unlike Project Democracy) which will make this an attractive place

for right minded people to make contributions. What think?

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To: NSVMC --CPUA

NOTE FROM: Walter Raymond

Subject: CENTRAL AMERICA PUBLIC DIPLOMACY

This was the mtg I chaired on 28 Aug. Any thoughts?

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To: NSMPC --CPUA

NOTE FROM: Walter Raymond

Subject: CENTRAL AMERICA PUBLIC DIPLOMACY

Per my separate prof.

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To: NSJMP --CPUA

*** Reply to note of 07/31/86 19:34

NOTE FROM: Walter Raymond

Subject: CENTRAL AMERICA PUBLIC DIPLOMACY

As a follow-up Peter Dailey invited me to breakfast. I thought the

memo was excellent but he did not feel that it totally filled the

bill. What he thought was missing was the immediacy of the problem

from the American domestic perspective. He believes that we are

operating with a relatively narrow window in which to turn around

American perceptions re Centam--and particularly Nic--or we will be

chewed up by Congress. We discussed the obvious, which is part of

our strategy, including such things as: the need to convince people

of the key importance of Centam to our national security; the need

to glue white hats on our team etc.The themes are those we have

pressed although he believes we could change the dialogue away from

contras to democrats; emphasize the need for a free and open vote

etc. Nothing really knew here. The key difference is that he thinks

we should run it more like a political/presidential campaign. We

need to strengthen our ability to reach out. Names like Rollins,

Nofziger and co were thrown around as the kinds of resources one

needs to tap.

Later in talking to Ollie and Bob Kagen we focussed on what is

missing and that is a well-funded, independent outside group--

remember the Committee for the Present Danger--that could mobilize

people. Peter suggested 10 or 12 very prominent bipartisan

Americans. Added to this would need to be a key action officer and

a 501-c-3 tax-exempt structure. It is totally understanding that

such a structure is needed and also totally understanding why, for

discreet political reasons, it was not included in the memo to Bill

Casey. I told Pete he was right but we need "a horse" and money!

I have chatted on the margins to both Clif White and Dave

Miller abouit this and they both have organizationaland conceptual

ideas. My recommendation is that after Labor Day when everyone is

back in the city that a meeting take place with the following

people present: Peter Dailey, Clif White, Dave Miller, Elliot

Abrams, Bob Kagan, Ollie North and myself. The results of that

meeting would be the basis for charting the next step in this area.

Do you agreee? Do you recommend additions or deletions to the

group? At any rate, the regular public diplomacy work will

continue to proceeed along and with vigor.

cc: NSOLN --CPUA

FROM: NSRLE --CPUA TO: NSCPC --CPUA 09/11/86 09:56:01

To: NSJDH --CPUA

NOTE FROM: Robert L. Earl

SUBJECT: ARREST OF SULAYMAN AL-TURKI

Press reports indicate that the Pakistanis have apparently arrested

a Libyan by the name of Sulayman al-Turki. If the press ask

follow-up questions such as "Does this indicate Libyan involvement

in the hijacking of Pan Am 73?" etc., our proposed response is that

we don't have anything on that yet, that we are obviously

interested, and in the process of checking with the Pak government

for the basis on which they arrested this individual. Beyond that,

no further comment.

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FROM: NSPWR --CPUA TO: NSJMP --CPUA 09/11/86 18:28:44

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*** Reply to note of 09/11/86 17:55

NOTE FROM: Peter Rodman

Subject: Counter-Terrorism Public Diplomacy

Jerry Bremer came to see me today to say hello. In passing he did

mention the need for a serious CT public diplomacy effort, and he

cited Otto Peich's operation as a model. He said he was trying to

get a good USIA person to head it. He was particularly concerned

about European opinion and he thinks a lot of the work is classic

USIA work: polling, assessments of our vulnerabilities, picking the

themes to concentrate on, sending speakers, publishing articles,

etc.In short, he did seem aware of the problem, and State's delay

up to now is probably just due to the fact that he was just coming

on board.

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NSOLN --CPUA NSRBM --CPUA

NSJMP --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER

FROM: NSJMP --CPUA TO: NSPWR --CPUA 09/11/86 19:28:50

To: NSPWR --CPUA PETER RODMAN

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NOTE FROM: JOHN POINDEXTER

Subject: Counter-Terrorism Public Diplomacy

Make sure Jerry knows the background of this and see if he needs

any help. In other words do I need to talk to George?

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To: NSJMP --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER

NOTE FROM: BOB PEARSON

Subject: Counter-Terrorism Public Diplomacy

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To: NSRBM --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER NSWRP --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER

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To: NSRBM --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER NSWRP --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER

NOTE FROM: Walter Raymond

SUBJECT: Counter-Terrorism Public Diplomacy

You will recall that Dave Miller developed a very thoughtful

proposal for an effective public diplomacy effort on counter-

terrorism. We remain very delinquent in this area. Only the absence

of serious counter-terror incidents in the past few weeks have

permitted us to escape the embarrassment of an inadequate public

diplomacy capability. Dave Miller, Ollie North and I all agree that

the key to creating an effective public diplomacy effort, ala

Reich, is to provide leadership and direction to this effort.

People will make a difference and under the current situation

bureaucratic boxes are driving the PD effort--that won't work.

Since we wanted this to be part of the interagency CT process, we

sought to energize this effort in a manner different from Centam

and So Africa. We sent a McDaniel-Platt urging State to take the

lead in putting this effort together, under the IG/T. In the

earlier cases we just mandated the creation of a PD team.We may

have to do that again.

We sent the memo to State on 10 July and nothing has happened.

I am aware that they are staffing but there is some internal

struggling between the IG/T structure and Lamb's structure with

Spiers reportedly unhelpful. Seems they earlier gave Lamb 8 Public

Affairs slots and this has confused the bureaucracy.

BOTTOM LINE: Suggest you raise with George Shultz your own

personal view that we must get on with this effort now. Key is to

establish an effective PD team (5-10 full-time professionals) who

know their region and PD. Will be under the IG/T and will be

staffed by players on loan from State, USIA, DOD,CIA and possibly

others. Need to move now. State may have Ambassador level

candidate, but if they do not, we might want to try USIA senior

level officer. Fact that group reports also to WH would strengthen

hand of PD coordinator.Had considered for breakfast item, but

thought you might have better shot at George Shultz in California.

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NSAGK --CPUA ALTON G. KEEL

FROM: NSJMP --CPUA TO: NSOLN --CPUA 09/13/86 12:01:00

To: NSOLN --CPUA OLLIE NORTH

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NOTE FROM: JOHN POINDEXTER

SUBJECT: Public Affairs Campaign on Central America

Bill Casey was in this morning and amongst other things he said

that he still felt that we needed somebody in the WH full time on

Central America public affiars. I think what he really has in mind

is a political operative that can twist arms and also run a high

powered public affairs campaign. What do you think?

What about your priest friend, Tom?

I also went over with him our plans on the hostages and he is on

board.

Also went over the Secord matters. Bill agrees Secord is a patriot.

He will check into our suspicions. I told him he could get more

detail from you.

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To: NSFPO --CPUA

NOTE FROM: Walter Raymond

Subject: OTTO REICH

Pls print

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To: NSFPO --CPUA

NOTE FROM: Walter Raymond

Subject: OTTO REICH

Pls attach to note I am sending to Bob Pearson

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*** Reply to note of 07/03/86 12:15

NOTE FROM: Walter Raymond

Subject: OTTO REICH

After much discussion, Bob Kagan, who was Elliot Abrams' Special

Assistant, was named as Otto's replacement. Kagan's office was

folded under ARA for command and control but continues to have a

reporting responsibility to the IPC and the SPG as part of my

effort to give it an interagency mandate. It remains to be seen if

this will weaken the effort. One key will be the need for people to

be assigned from an interagency pool.

Meanwhile,I continue to chair weekly meetings to sustain the

public diplomacy effort.They are attended by Kagan, Speakes rep,

Buchanan rep, DOD, CIA, USIA and NSC LA officer. (When there is a

Sitrm mtg of the Centam coordinating grp for Hill strategy we get

a feed from that group). Our brief is much broader. We seek to lay

out and implement broader international strategies, particularly in

LA and EUR. We approved a new strategy paper on 16 June which was

sent out over Rod McDaniel's signature.Thie basically calls for a

sustained effort to garner support for our overall Centam policy,

increase understanding of the issues and, in the specific case of

Nica, concentrate on gluing black hats on the Sandinistas and white

hats on UNO.We have requested a community report on the level of

activity sustained under the latest NSC PD tasking by 31 Aug.

The group has produced an outstanding collection of materials to

suuport our policy. It t is also light years ahead of where it was

three years ago, but much work needs to be done. At our most recent

weekly Centam mtg the following items were covered:

--Senate strategy: Focus on key Senators who can be brought

over to increase victory margin and show momentum.

--Maximize exposure for BishopBismarck Carvallo and La Prensa

to highlight Nic internal crackdown. Lousy coverage to date in

foreign press and not much better in US.

--Play on key themes in Europe which will strengthen our case:

o Popularize Centam support for UNO. Note USIA poll which

showed popular support for armed opposition to Nics in Honduras and

Costa Rica.

o We are on the winning side. The House vote can help

convince the Europeans that we will see this through...we are not

going to be blown away by the Hill. It is always politically easier

to support a winner.

--Arms Display--use on Hill or at UN.

This does not mean to say everything is perfect, but there is a

process under wayand world opinion, often fluctuating because of

many reasons includng the East-West Relationship, has been

gradually moving. We have to sustain it.

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To: NSRKS --CPUA NSVMC --CPUA

NSAGK --CPUA ALTON G. KEEL

NOTE FROM: PAUL THOMPSON

SUBJECT: response to chairman hamilton

jmp spoke with hamilton this evening on the issue of the request

for the nsdd and other papers regarding the disinformation issue

and accompanying leak.

he delivered the message contained in the letter--that we would

make only the nsdd available to be looked at and only to hamilton

plus stump, and only in the company of vince.

hamilton said he was not surprised at our position and that he

would be in a position to look at the nsdd when he returns to dc.

in the interim, he would appreciate it if tom latimer could be

notified of the status of the matter(ron, please do)and that he

would await the meeting with vince at some future time.

i am returning the package via bob pearson.

jmp also brought up the detailee transfer issue as a collateral

issue of this matter and told hamilton of the plan to have our

staffer returned to state. hamilton said he thought it was the

right course of action and that he would be supportive.

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NSBSR --CPUA

MSG FROM: NSRCM --CPUA TO: NSJMP --CPUA 11/07/86 20:30:32

To: NSJMP --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER

-- SECRET --

NOTE FROM: ROBERT MCFARLANE

SUBJECT: Current Events

Having been out of town for two days and maintaining the no comment

line, I returned today to find that Don Regan has backgrounded the

weeklies and laid the entire problem at my feet; my idea, my

management, a strict arms for hostages deal, no larger agenda in

mind, etc. I was told this not by a journalist but by my closest

friend who had been getting calls all day to the effect that "Bud

is being hung out to dry by Don Regan." I stillhave not commented

to anyone.

But I must tell you that if this is true, I will be quite mad. This

will be the second lie Don Regan has sowed against my character and

I won't stand for it.

It might be useful to review just what the truth is.

You will recall that when the Israelis first approached us in June

'85, I presented the idea of engaging in a dialogue with the

Iranians--no mention at all of any arms exchanges at all--and he

approved it.

We then heard nothing until August when the Israelis introduced the

requirement for TOWs. I told Kimche no.

They went ahead on their own but then asked that we replace the

TOWS and after checking with the President, we agreed. Weir was

released as a consequence of their action.

My next involvement was to go to London where I presented our

willingness to open a political dialogue but that we could not

participate in an arms transfer for hostages. Gorbanifar ranted and

raved but we did not change our position.

I returned to the States and debriefed the President (with Cap

present, and Regan) that we had taken the position of being open to

a political dialogue once our hostages were released but not before

and ruled out an arms transfer. I also said that Gorbanifar was not

to be trusted and recomended that we no longer carry on business

with him. You were present John. I then left the government.

Some dialogue must have continued with Gorbanifar between New

Year's and April, notwithstanding my recommendation. In April you

contacted me to go to Iran to open the political dialogue. I did

so. Once there, faced with bad faith on their part (not having

released our people and without meetings with the decision makers)

I aborted the mission. Ollie can verify all this.

Upon my return, I debriefed the trip and once more recommended

against carrying on the arms connection but waiting them out on the

political dialogue.

Now this is a far cry from the way Regan is supposed to be

reporting it John. I have supported the idea of the political

dialogue but time and again, have registered my opposition to the

arms deal. You know that.

If any of these reports of what Regan is saying are true--they are

supposed to be in Time and Newsweek on Monday--it will be cause for

a libel suit by me.

I am perfectly willing to carry on the no comment approach; that

seems to me to best serve the hope of preserving the position of

Rafsanjani et al. But I won't tolerate lies from Don Regan.

John,itmight be useful for you to try to find out from Don or by

asking the mags directly, just what are they running with. I have

made no comment (other than the "fanciful and fictitious" line in

my Cleveland Q&A) and will not.

Take care

) Current Events

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To: NSOLN --CPUA

-- SECRET --

NOTE FROM: ROBERT MCFARLANE

SUBJECT: Good Morning

I've been out of town for two days, as I guess you have too. After

five months without one speech, for some reason I have had to do

two of them on the same day. Both were followed by Q&A with the

first questions being on the Iranian headlines. I replied that I

could not comment but would welcome the chance to do so at the

appropriate time in order to correct what have been "fanciful and

largely fictitious" stories.

Although Caroline tells me that I have had hndreds of calls, I have

refused all of them and will continue to do so. I have been told on

very good authority however, that Don Regan is beginning to brief

on this laying the whole thing at my feet.

I am proud of what we have set in motion and believe it may still

have some promise especially in the context of restoring some

stability in the relationship with Iran which has always been my

motive as you know. Similarly I have always been against dealing

with Gorbanifar. But none of this need be a matter of public

record. The issue is to determine whether or not there is any hope

of carrying on with the discourse with Rafsanjani. If so, we ought

to get on with it ASAP. We have two months to get something

accomplished before the tide of congressional investigations

overwhelm us. It is a good story to tell as it stands; it can be

better.

Let's stay in touch.

U Good Morning

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To: NSJMP --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER

NOTE FROM: BOB PEARSON

Subject: Centam Private Sector Initiative

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To: NSRBM --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER NSWRP --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER

NOTE FROM: Walter Raymond

SUBJECT: Centam Private Sector Initiative

There have been several mtgs following up on the effort to get

a major, bipartisan group formed to help promote an "educational

program in the US which would help provide understanding (and

support) for our Centam policy, particularly vis-a-vis Nicaragua.

Although Pete Dailey, Bill Casey and Clif White have all been

involved in general discussion of what needs to be done, we are

going to have to be sure that Pete and Bill are not involved. Pete

is getting very nervous on this item. Hence Clif is now taking the

lead. The current focus is to get a bipartisan co-chairmanship, a

six man (roughly) EXCOM, a staff director and a large bi-partisan

advisory council. Current names being tossed around for the

co-chair include Jack Gavin, Bill Rogers, Dean Rusk and Mark White.

Pete (and Ollie) favor going with Gavin. Clif is also talking to

several key democratic activist types for their recommendations.

Jim Woolsey's name has come up in that context Clif has the list of

several effectrive operators who have just finished the fall

campaign (plus some soon-to-be ex-staffers on the Hill) whomight be

a good ExDir. Dave Miller has also been helpful, particularly in

terms of getting the 501-C-3 status and access to fresh faces in

the political consultant field. Clif has (or will) be seeking names

from Mitch Daniels too.

The problem with all of this is that to make it work it really

has to be one step removed from our office and, as a result, we

have to rely on others to get the job done. Will keep you posted.

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NSAGK --CPUA ALTON G. KEEL

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To: NSJMP --CPUA JOHN M. POINDEXTER

-- SECRET --

NOTE FROM ROBERT MCFARLANE

SUBJECT: Perspective

Jonny and I are leaving today to go to Chicago to see Melissa

perform in a play. I will also be giving a speech before the Simon

Weisenthal center for the study of terrorism ( I think the V.P. is

also speaking there tonight).

But before leaving I wanted to write down some preliminaries on

what we ought to expect here at home and abroad in the days ahead.

It is difficult to know whether or if so, public opinion can be

altered here at home. I think time is probably on our side,

conditioned upon whether something adverse happens in Iran with the

"good guys." But I don't think we need to be too pessimistic.

Reme,ber the other side had ten days to build the case in the

public mind against us and we have only just begun to fight back.

For what it is worth, I received a five-minute standing ovation

when I laid out the whole story before the Young President's

Organization audience. It has a very broad cross section of

successful young, but small businessmen and is about evenly split

between Demos and Republicans.

And even among journalists, I have found that the more I explain

the more they begin to understand that this is not as superficial

as they have portrayed it.

A major problem we face is that, quite apart from its substance, it

is a vehicle for beating the President. So that motive will drive

Democrats on the Hill into a frenzy. I think we need to work

against that in a rather careful way. For example, I think the

President's tone toward the Hill generally ought to be to reach out

and seek cooperation. Any other approach will be suicidal. They

control both houses. If he is serious about trying to accomplish

something, he will need to try to build a core of Demos who will

support. In today's radio speech, I sensed that perhaps Pat

believes it is hopeless and has urged a strategy of running against

the partisan demos in '88. That is irresponsible and I think, also

bad politics, for Republicans are not yet a majority--we will need

demos to win in '88. So point one is that the President's public

remarks toward the Hill ought to conciliatory, not confrontational

on all issues, not just this one. I am inclined to think that he

ought to try to get a small group of Senators with integrity down

to visit on this issue. The V.P.'s advice would be good on this.

But a small group to include John Stennis, Lloyd Bentsen, maybe

Peter Rodino and a few Republicans of similar credentials (e.g.

Goldwater--after some softening up by me--Tower) and talk

deliberately about the big picture. Now that may be basically wrong

John. Your stress on how the President was preoccupied with the

hostages--which is astonishing-- might lead him to put the emphasis

on that and lead people to the wrong conclusion. You are the best

judge.

Apart from the President, I think it is essential that we have a

communications game plan which deals with the editorial boards as

well as the leading print and electronic journalists (although

ruling out those who are clearly irretrivable). And it ought to be

a pro-active strategy. We cannot plead the sensitivity, although it

better preserves the policy potential of the enterprise. Because

the simple truth is that unless we make a better case than the

opposition, the policy potential will be overwhelmed by new law

anyway and we end up in the same place. And I also believe that if

we believe what we say--that there really is a circle or sensible

people in Iran, that they too must be brought to awareness--by a

long letter to them or by a thorough explanation in a meeting--that

we are both of us at a moment of truth. If we carry this forward

it will take some performance from them in ways that only they can

judge but that we cannot avoid laying out the whole thing here.

If that is the way we decide to go--and I will abide by whatever

you and the President decide--then I believe I can help by being

very active but not necessarily visible (although I don't oppose

that) with editorial boards and in one on one sessions with

Goldwater, Bentsen, Foley, Murtha, maybe Nunn, Lugar etc. But we

cannot, I repeat cannot, hunker down on this and the Iranians must

be told that. They may very well jump ship right away--I expect

that is likely--but they are not without vulnerabilities. We might

be able to influence their thinking by asking Dick Walters to go

see [Deleted, (b)(1)(s) exemption] asking him to weigh in with the

Iranians. [Deleted, (b)(1)(s) exemption] gets along with them and

give them some solid hard experience [Deleted, (b)(1)(s) exemption]

He might send [Deleted, (b)(1)(s) exemption] to see them.

final comment. I lived throught Watergate John. Well-meaning

people who were in on the early planning of the communications

strategy, didn't intend to lie but ultimately came around to it. I

don't know how Regan will tend. He might choose two courses; either

to push it off on someone outside the White House, which is fine

with me, or he might go ahead with a "sell it on its merits"

strategy. If the latter is the course followed, it must not be

confrontational, but open and candid.

The judgements made on this and other matters in the next four or

five days will be crucial. I will be glad to talk about when I

return from Chicago on Tuesday if you wish.

cc: NSAGK --CPUA ALTON G. KEEL

*Perspective

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To: NSRCM --CPUA ROBERT MCFARLANE

NOTE FROM: WILMA HALL

Subject: On Leave

You and Jonny have not been out of my thoughts -- especially since

all this press play re Iran/hostages etc. I just want you to know

-- I think Bud McFarlane is the greatest; the President, the

country and all of us "average Americans" are very fortunate that

Robert C. McFarlane is a dedicated American and provides true

leadership. I just get so frustrated with the media -- why do we

let them have so much control; why are we so reactionary to them;

the President is too defensive. I wish it were as simple as being

able to say "I did the right thing based on solid intell

information."

I must say, much as I like Secy Shultz personally, I am very

disappointed with his public reaction to all this. I don't think it

serves the President well. I do miss you ... lots of NSCers do; I

hear it all the time.

I'm glad you and Jonny can get to Chicago -- I know it must mean a

great deal to Melissa to have you there. She's really wonderful and

I'm happy that she is continuing to do so well. Look forward to

seeing Laurie, Melissa and Scott again -- perhaps when they come

home for the holidays. Pls give them my regards and Jonny a hug.

P.S. I saw you on NIGHTLINE -- thought you handled the questions

beautifully. I had to chuckle a couple of times -- you are very

good at finessing.

Take care -- and keep your smile. It helps the rest of us maintain

momentum

On Leave

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*** Reply to note of 11/19/86 11:41

-- SECRET --

NOTE FROM: ROBERT MCFARLANE

Subject: HFAC

I am willing to talk to Members but not to staff. Caroline can

arrange it from my office.

By the way, two journalists today said that Don Regan backgrounded

today that it was all my idea and he wanted noting to do with

it--nor did the President--from the beginning. Of course, the

journalists know that isn't true from talking to many people. But

my point is that to do this doesn't help the President.

As you may know, I accepted full responsibility for the entire

matter today.And still I got nothing but bad-mouth from the Speakes

and Regan As a further thought about the HFAC, it might be better

for you to refer them to my office so that it doesn't look too

coordinated. But I will proceed as you wish, concerning matters of

adivce to the President. I assume that I ought not disclose such

advice.

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*** Reply to note of 11/20/86 23:00

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NOTE FROM: JOHN POINDEXTER

Subject: HFAC

I wish that Don and Larry wouldn't do that. They over-reacted to

the Lou Cannon story. The President understands what you were

saying. I think you are right about referring the HFAC to you

office. We will. You are right we are not revealing the

recommendations to the President. My sessions with the committees

and Bill's went pretty well. Over 10 1/2 hours of talking between

us. If you would like I will have Ron Sable brief you.

cc: NSAGK --CPUA AL KEEL

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NOTE FROM: Ron Sable

SUBJECT: TOW

any idea how much a Tow weighs? Some of our "friends" aare starting

to add up expected weights and costs on the Iran shipments- Believe

it will come out much lighter than presently being discussed

TOW

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To: NSRKS --CPUA

NOTE FROM: Robert L. Earl

SUBJECT: SUPPLIES

OK, here goes. The unit cost of each of the 2,008 TOWS was $3,469.

In addition to that, the cost of packaging, handling,

transportation, etc. were paid by the Iranians. Total amount paid

by the Iranians was $12,237,000. (The unit price, by the way, was

the existing federal government price at the time of the contract;

it has since gone up considerably...) The weight and cube of

everything shipped -- TOWS and HAWK spare parts -- was 215,464 lbs

and 18,782 cu.ft. The capacity of a C-5 is 291,000 lbs and 34,734

cu.ft. Ergo, room to spare.

All of the above remains SECRET, of course. CIA is reporting this

info in greater detail to the SSCI.

cc: NSCPC --CPUA

o SUPPLIES

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NSJSS --CPUA

NOTE FROM: Walter Raymond

Subject: CENTRAL AMERICA PUBLIC DIPLOMACY

I have been working on this kind of thing for the past several

months. Ollie is not/was not involved! I did meet with State (Bob

Kagan), Clif White (political consultant) and Dave Miller (former

Ambassador, now unpaid NSC consultant and private businessman).

Given the latest flaps (contragate), I have removed myself from the

deliberations. Peter Dailey, who was also involved in all the early

talks, has had to absent himself too because of his CIA connection.

Before pulling back, Peter had talked to Jack Gavin about heading

the effort. Gavin is on board. Thus, there is the beginnings of an

outreach group such as Frank desired, involving White, Gavin and

Miller. There is also a 501-c-3 in hand. I would be happy to

discuss this further with you or whomever. I chair a weekly mtg on

Centam Public Diplomacy and a lot of the outreach ideas are

discussed there each week. Possibly we shouldget Bob Kagan to brief

Frank with Jose and me present.